Wednesday, October 8, 2014

How did the church take the age out of elder?

 Elders:
Strong's Greek: 4245. (presbuteros) — 66 Occurrences
As used in the gospels, alway aged, always with respect as at the gates, Elder is to say "Older man."
Elder: 
Matt 15:2, Matt 16:21, Matt 21:23, Matt 26:3, Matt 26:47, Matt 26:57, Matt 27:1, Matt 27:3
Matt 27:12, Matt 27:20, Matt 27:41, Matt 28:12, Mark 7:3, Mark 7:5, Mark 8:31, Mark 11:27 
Mark 14:43, Mark 14:53, Mark 15:1, Luke 7:3, Luke 9:22 
     elder son:
Luke 15:25
     Note the credentials of the Elder Son... 
     He was out in the field.
     This could have been an early Mormon!
      Consider.. This may not have been an old guy, but was "older" than the prodigal son.
     Like the Mormon missionaries, he was trying to earn his position in the family and was 
     called "elder!"

Luke 20:1, Luke 22:52, John 8:9 "the eldest"

Acts 2:17 your "old men" shall dream dreams:
      Here we have gifts given in the last days, and these gifts are divided up by age groups some to old men some to young. Obviously not directed to an office in the church. 
Acts 4:5 KJV: rulers, and elders, and scribes,
Acts 4:8 KJV: of the people, and elders of Israel,
Acts 4:23 KJV: and elders had said
Acts 6:12 KJV: and the elders, and
Acts 11:30 KJV: and sent it to the elders by the hands
Acts 14:23 KJV: them elders in every
Acts 15:2 KJV: the apostles and elders about this
Acts 15:4 KJV: and elders, and
Acts 15:6 KJV: and elders came together
Acts 15:22 KJV: and elders, with
Acts 15:23 KJV: The apostles and elders and brethren
Acts 16:4 KJV: the apostles and elders which were at
Acts 20:17 KJV: and called the elders of the church.
Acts 21:18 KJV: and all the elders were present.
Acts 23:14 KJV: and elders, and said,
Acts 24:1 KJV: with the elders, and
Acts 25:15 KJV: and the elders of the Jews
1 Tim 5:1 KJV: Rebuke not an elder, but intreat...
You should show an elder (old man) respect and treat him like a father!
1 Tim 5:2 KJV: The elder women as mothers;
1 Tim 5:17 KJV: Let the elders that rule well
1 Tim 5:19 KJV: Against an elder receive not
Titus 1:5 KJV: and ordain elders in every city,
I think this should read from the elders in every city appoint...
Heb 11:2 KJV: it the elders obtained a good report.
James 5:14 KJV: let him call for the elders of the church;
1 Peter 5:1 KJV: The elders which are among you
1 Peter 5:5 KJV: submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea,
2 John 1:1 KJV: The elder unto the elect lady
3 John 1:1 KJV: The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius,
Rev 4:4 KJV: and twenty elders sitting, clothed
Rev 4:10 KJV: and twenty elders fall down before
Rev 5:5 KJV: one of the elders saith unto me,
Rev 5:6 KJV: the midst of the elders, stood
Rev 5:8 KJV: [and] twenty elders fell down
Rev 5:11 KJV: and the elders: and
Rev 5:14 KJV: [and] twenty elders fell down
Rev 7:11 KJV: and [about] the elders and
Rev 7:13 KJV: one of the elders answered, saying
Rev 11:16 KJV: and twenty elders, which sat
Rev 14:3 KJV: beasts, and the elders: and no man
Rev 19:4 KJV: and twenty elders and the four

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